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the dark cavalier ([personal profile] cerulean_sky) wrote2004-11-04 12:20 am

And so the shock sets in.

I know of at least one republican on my flist, so you're free to disregard everything but the last part of this post.

It's Thursday now. It's Thursday, and this country doesn't have a new president. It has one that somehow got elected again. The sad thing about this, is that there's no way to challenge this. He won this time. There were no disappearing ballots from Florida. ( There was the whole Nevada thing, with them ripping up democratic ballots, but that's a little different. Not much, but a little. ) Not this time.

And suddenly my faith in this country has gone out the window. (It already had a foot out the door when the country ( I use the term very generally here, I know, so don't hurt me ) fought to ban gay marriage. )

It's sad, but I actually have a hard time figuring out why people like Bush. And there are only two reasons that I could accept ( though I still wish to change these people's minds. ) One: Their parents are republican, and so they were raised to be republican. Two: Religious values. More than half the people who were/are pro Bush are for him because they think he is for something that he isn't actually for. And it's not small things. It's things that Kerry clearly said he was for. It's not like the information was hidden. They just asumed that because they were republican, and they believed such-and-such a thing, then their canidate - the republican, of course - must, of course, be for that such-and-such a thing as well. When in fact, they are/were wrong.

But, being who I am, I'm desperately seeking some solace in the deep dark back rooms of my mind where everything is alright and no one can hurt me. Because I dislike politics and news and current events because, despite everything, they seem to shatter whatever control I have on my life, and then I lose what sanity I ever had. ( Trust me, it's happened. I know what happens to me. And it's not a good thing. ) I cannot watch the news, or read the news paper, because something in me dies when I do. And instead, I am now surrounded by this tragedy and am consequently being very slowly killed. I can feel the last walls I've surrounded myself in shattering.

Call me stupid, call me shallow, call me whatever the fuck you want, I will not get involved. I will not get involved in this more than to say, something must be changed.

Finally, in order to make my the little room more secure I'm desperately looking for music ( even though my hard drive is getting full and I have almost no disc space. ) So give me music recs. ( Especaially you, Jaida. I meant to remember what we were listening to at your dorm, but I can't at the moment. ) So give me recs, please.

[identity profile] calicokat.livejournal.com 2004-11-04 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
It's hilarious in a dark way because Bush is NOT a traditional Republican and he is NOT a conservative. Republicans believe in small business, small government, and giving the states power over themselves. Bush is a NEO-conservative, he believes in corperations, and BIG government to the point of telling states who can get married, what schools can recieve funding, what enviromental policy will be, if people can get abortions, and if the death penalty should be exercised. This election feels like some sort of horrible sham and when I woke up this morning I expected somebody to say "Just kidding!"

I don't know how Bush won. It makes me nauseous.

I want to stay out of this too, I don't even feel American on most days, but the more this oppressive feeling closes in, the more I start to feel like I may fight.

I'd like to reccomend music but I'm in a terrible mental state right now that fluctuates between "Scream about government" and "fangirl Lost" with nothing in between (the first makes me frantically turn to the second until it comes crashing back en force). I'll get back to you on that. @_@;;

[identity profile] cerulean-sky.livejournal.com 2004-11-04 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I am trying so very very hard to just ignore everything around me. And still, I'm becoming more and more depressed over the course of this day. It just seems that the world is doomed. Or perhaps just doomed to make me depressed. Either way, I still end up feeling like someone punched me. Really really hard.

As to music recs, eh. If you give em, great. If not, I won't be terribly upset.

[identity profile] melodylemming.livejournal.com 2004-11-04 02:22 pm (UTC)(link)
The idea that people voted for bush because they didn't know what he actually stood for is maybe the saddest thing of all. :(

As for the music, I don't know what you tend to like, but I'm always ready to rec The Magnetic Fields. And if you'd liiek, I can send you a few of their songs.

[identity profile] cerulean-sky.livejournal.com 2004-11-04 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Isn't it? I'm going to ask my dad where he read that article and if he remembers, I'll post a link to it. If not, just be really sad about how totally depressing that is.

I will totally check them out. I'm desperate for music at this point.

[identity profile] ravenpirate.livejournal.com 2004-11-04 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd say download Nightwish songs, but you've already got more songs of theirs than I do.

Um...KoRn? I dunno if you like them. I love them though. And Adema.

[identity profile] cerulean-sky.livejournal.com 2004-11-04 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
And I've been getting more lately. I have over 50 of their songs. XD

(Isn't the school computer and a free period a wonderful thing?)

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_starlady_/ 2004-11-04 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
My dad voted for Bush. He's not a dumb man. I just don't get it. PA went for Kerry, as did every other place in the nation with intelligent people. I really thought it would turn out differently. I'm bummed, too.

Musical recs:
Taking back Sunday
Hawthone Heights
Gob

I saw metalcore bands Zao and Dillinger Escape Plan this week, but that's not your thing. They rocked!

In other news, I'll be in town Monday. Is there a chance we could get together for an hour? (Ewww . . . that sounded like creepy Internet stalker talk!)

[identity profile] cerulean-sky.livejournal.com 2004-11-04 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually have no idea how people who like Bush think. I want to take apart their minds and see what their thought process is, because I just don't get it. Especially when they are intelligent people. But hey, I can't balme someone for what they believe, I suppose.

When Monday? I get out of school at 4:15 (my time of course, so I can totally meet you after that, if you're going to be around.) So drop me a line and just let me know what the deal is. ( sky@laloi.net )

[identity profile] ravenpirate.livejournal.com 2004-11-04 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually have no idea how people who like Bush think.

You know how I think! I'm totally twisted. But then again, so are you. Muwah.

[identity profile] lisa-bee.livejournal.com 2004-11-04 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Call me stupid, call me shallow, call me whatever the fuck you want, I will not get involved. I will not get involved in this more than to say, something must be changed.

That is exactly the attitude that keeps the youth vote (18-29) down to about 10 %

You weren't eligible to vote this election, okay. You could have volunteered. You could have postered or called potential voters. You could have kept informed on the issues and talked about them with anyone you knew who was wavering.

Saying "I don't like this" isn't good enough. Saying "This makes me physically ill and I can't deal with it" only opens the door to four more years of Bush.

The only way to make any kind of difference, the only way to have any hope of reclaiming our nation is to stand up and make ourselves heard. Hiding from it does no good: it does the opposite, because it allows others to be heard in your stead.

Apathy is no excuse. Ever.

[identity profile] cerulean-sky.livejournal.com 2004-11-04 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Call me stupid, call me shallow, call me whatever the fuck you want

I say things because I mean them. I don't say them because I like hearing my own voice. Because, besides being stupid this is all in text. That would be pointless.

I know Bush does things that are wrong ( in my opinion and, apparently, in yours ). I'm not blind. I'm not deaf. I'm not illiterate. So, despite the fact that I do try very hard to cut myself off from these things, I do know some of what's happening around me.

Now think about this: If I let myself get to involved in the news and politics, bad things happen in my life. I get depressed, I stop doing homework, I stop being responsive in school, I stop doing well in school, I stop sleeping, I start getting nightmares on an almost daily basis. I lose control of things I have carefully built a firm hold of control over.

So here's a novel idea for you:

I'll decide what's good for me and what I do, and you can decide what's good for you and what you'll do. Don't tell me what to think, and I won't tell you what to think. Don't tell me what to do, and I'll give you the same courtesy. And if you can't deal with that, then leave me the fuck alone.

Thank you for your time.

[identity profile] turnedskyward.livejournal.com 2004-11-04 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I rec the entire community [livejournal.com profile] teh_music. I'm a bit obsessed, but my playlist has grown over 300 songs this week.

As for specifics? I currently am infatuated with Zero 7, Bjork, and The Streets. Anything by them comes highly recommended.

[identity profile] cerulean-sky.livejournal.com 2004-11-04 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
*boiks off to see the music*

[identity profile] beautifullydone.livejournal.com 2004-11-04 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
you can't understand why people would for bush because you live in nyc and frequent largely liberal online communities-- anyone that could legitimately put out good points for bush are lost in the bush bashings.

the way i prefer to think about it is like this-- rights and wrongs in politics are transient and not stationary; what is right or wrong is 100% dependent on your situation, upbringing, etc. there are extremely intelligent and goodhearted people in texas voting for bush just as we have extremely intelligent and goodhearted people in nyc voting kerry. and give them both a track record of great independent thought, much research, etc-- labeling either ignorant would clearly be a crime.

[identity profile] beautifullydone.livejournal.com 2004-11-04 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
ps, http://www.crymore.org/racism/ -- all the stuff there is good, but i'd rec disconnect the dots, yoshimi, anything by the arcade fire, and the broken social scene song.

[identity profile] cerulean-sky.livejournal.com 2004-11-04 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I clearly do not appreciate you enough. You have made things so much clearer ( not really clear, but at least you made things actually make sense ) than they really could ever have been.

Remind me to hug you tomorrow.

PS- Thanks for the music!

[identity profile] darsabre.livejournal.com 2004-11-05 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
well, my brain suggests ( though I have no idea which of these you know...)
billy joel, jethro tull ( specifically, thought that broadsword would be good.)
james taylor, loggins and messina, marcy playground, and Lots and Lots of voltaire.

[identity profile] cerulean-sky.livejournal.com 2004-11-08 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Voltaire is keeping me sane.

[identity profile] darsabre.livejournal.com 2004-11-08 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
he has that effect on many of us.